Before looking closer into what was told by the meditators - lets take a couple of 'sidesteps':

Throughout human history, we’ve grappled with profound inquiries about our existence: “Where do we come from?” “Where are we headed?” and “What is the purpose of life?” These questions transcend cultural boundaries and have fascinated us for ages.


Our quest for answers extends beyond Earth. We scan the cosmos, hoping to discover extraterrestrial life. But even if we encounter intelligent beings elsewhere, a fundamental question remains: “Where did they originate from?”


Science introduces the concept of quantum fluctuation, suggesting that something can spontaneously arise from nothing. Yet, this leads us to another puzzle: Who or what established the very laws of nature that govern such fluctuations?


Religious and spiritual explanations often invoke gods or higher powers. But then we encounter a paradox: If gods exist, who or what created them?

Across disciplines - whether in religion, philosophy, or science - we eventually encounter one or more logical flaws.

But, what if our starting assumptions are flawed? What if we’re viewing the universe, our existence, from an incorrect vantage point.


Let’s see what would happen if we, as humans, take one step back and ask the following question;

- What if the universe and even, life itself, was not really ‘made for us’ at all?


And by 'us', I dont mean just humans. I mean EVERYTHING living within the entire universe.

That includes all life on Earth and any extraterrestrial life or species we might encounter out there.

In this scenario, 'we' as living organisms - we're all in the same 'boat'



What if everything was made for 'something' that arrived from 'outside' our univers?

That would probably mean that our universe might just be a scenery - a simple framework needed for this 'something' to achieve its real goal.


And; What could this goal be?

Well, wouldn’t it be logical if the answer lies right in front of us, in the very surroundings in which we find ourselves?
In other words, since we are living in a physical universe, the most logical answer would simply be:


It had a
desire and need to gather;

Physical experience and knowledge


Look at it this way;
You can always read lots of books regarding 'how to drive a car', but you will never truly know what it's like to drive

unless you've actually been behind a physical wheel, in a real car, going down a physical road.


One might, of course, ask if this world is perfect for acquiring such physical experience and knowledge. Most of us feel that this world might not be ‘perfect’ at all - war, hunger, injustice, disasters, poverty, and personal problems, including financial concerns, illness, and losing someone close - don’t sound ‘perfect’ at all. On the other hand; What if everything is exactly the way it was meant to be? (no matter how unfair or imperfect it sometimes seems to us as humans).


I'll use temperature as an example;

Guess a temperature between +10°C/+50°F and +30°C/+86°F feels reasonably comfortable for most of us. Outside this range and it's either too hot or too cold.


On the other hand, absolute zero (-273°C / -459°F) would be...right, damn cold.


But, what about -272°C/-457°F ...?

Most of us would agree that this is pretty cold too, but there is a significant difference.


At absolute zero, all atomic movement stops (maybe not quite true, but still) - while at any other temperatures, there is 'movement' (that is; something happens).

So then, is -272°C/-457°F something you would define as 'good or bad' - I mean, compared to absolute zero ?...remember, at one point everything is dead and at the next, there is 'movement'.


In other words, if we look at it from an 'existing point of view' (vs 'non-existing')

there is a big different between -273°C and -272°C (or between -459°F and -457°F) 

as

there is 'something happening' compare to 'nothing happens at all'

and hence

-272°C/-457°F might turn out to be something 'good' after all

no matter what we, as humans, may feel about such a temperature



So again, could it be that our physical world is perfect after all - no matter how incomplete it may seem to us, as humans?

All we have to do, is looking upon everything from another point of view - from the view of ‘something’ that had a deep and heartfelt desire to learn ALL aspects of living in a physical world.


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I know, this probably means that the consequences for any physical body or living organism it took its residence in (us - among others) - may be completely irrelevant. One might even say that a physical universe that, to us, was in perfect harmonious balance - would be of absolutely no use for this ‘something’ - simply because such a world would offer no chance of learning ALL aspects of a physical life. The words ‘good’ or ‘bad’ are, in this context, simply irrelevant.


The thought may seem a bit unfamiliar and even frightening, but I see no reason why we should ‘bury our heads in the sand’ and pretend it’s not a possibility.

Just look arround, if this ‘something’ needs physical surroundings that consist of movement, action, events, processes, etc. - which surroundings are better adapted to this than our universe?

 

- just to take another small sidestep -

Regarding the perception of 'space and time'; As far as I know - parts of science tend towards the idea that 'time and space' actually is a network of events, of happenings, of processes, of movements etc (ref: Carlo Rovelli: The Order of Time)


The central idea is this;

Just as we once discovered that the Earth was not flat - or when we had to acknowledge that Earth was not the center of our solar system - perhaps we now should entertain the possibility that everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, wasn’t truly designed exclusively for us. 

There might be something else that is the real 'Star of the Show' -
something else that should be in the spotlight in this grand cosmic theater!


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